Wednesday, September 21, 2011

Due Friday: From Jonathan Edwards's "Personal Narrative"

[Below is a series of excerpts from Edwards's "Personal Narrative".  For Friday, read it; then copy a phrase that you find interesting, and comment on it.  Also read at least 80 pp. of your own book.]

    I had a variety of concerns and exercises about my soul from my childhood; but had two more remarkable seasons of awakening, before I met with that change by which I was brought to those new dispositions, and that new sense of things, that I have since had. The first time was when I was a boy, some years before I went to college, at a time of remarkable awakening in my father’s congregation. I was then very much affected for many months, and concerned about the things of religion, and my soul’s salvation; and was abundant in religious duties. I used to pray five times a day in secret, and to spend much time in religious conversation with other boys; and used to meet with them to pray together. I experienced I know not what kind of delight in religion. My mind was much engaged in it, and had much self-righteous pleasure; and it was my delight to abound in religious duties. I, with some of my schoolmates, joined together and built a booth in a swamp, in a very retired spot, for a place of prayer. And besides, I had particular secret places of my own in the woods, where I used to retire by myself; and was from time to time much affected. My affections seemed to be lively and easily moved, and I seemed to be in my element when engaged in religious duties. And I am ready to think, many are deceived with such affections, and such a kind of delight as I then had in religion, and mistake it for grace.
    But in process of time, my convictions and affections wore off; and I entirely lost all those affections and delights, and left off secret prayer, at least as to any constant performance of it; and returned like a dog to his vomit, and went on in the ways of sin. Indeed, I was at times very uneasy, especially towards the latter part of my time at college; when it pleased God to seize me with a pleurisy, in which he brought me nigh to the grave, and shook me over the pit of hell. And yet, it was not long after my recovery, before I fell again into my old ways of sin. But God would not suffer me to go on with any quietness; I had great and violent inward struggles, till after many conflicts with wicked inclinations, repeated resolutions, and bonds that I laid myself under by a kind of vows to God, I was brought wholly to break off all former wicked ways, and all ways of known outward sin; and to apply myself to seek salvation, and practice many religious duties; but without that kind of affection and delight which I had formerly experienced. My concern now wrought more by inward struggles and conflicts, and self-reflections. I made seeking my salvation the main business of my life. But yet, it seems to me, I sought after a miserable manner, which has made me sometimes since to question, whether ever it issued in that which was saving; being ready to doubt whether such miserable seeking ever succeeded. I was indeed brought to seek salvation in a manner that I never was before; I felt a spirit to part with all things in the world, for an interest in Christ. My concern continued and prevailed, with many exercising thoughts and inward struggles; but yet it never seemed to be proper to express that concern by the name of terror.

Sovereignty of God

    From my childhood up, my mind had been full of objections against the doctrine of God’s sovereignty, in choosing whom he would to eternal life, and rejecting whom he pleased; leaving them eternally to perish, and be everlastingly tormented in hell. It used to appear like a horrible doctrine to me. But I remember the time very well, when I seemed to be convinced, and fully satisfied, as to this sovereignty of God, and his justice in thus eternally disposing of men, according to his sovereign pleasure. But I never could give an account how, or by what means, I was thus convinced. [...] But I have often, since that first conviction, had quite another kind of sense of God’s sovereignty that I had then. I have often since had not only a conviction, but a delightful conviction. The doctrine has very often appeared exceeding pleasant, bright, and sweet. Absolute sovereignty is what I love to ascribe to God. But my first conviction was not so.
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    From about that time, I began to have a new kind of apprehensions and ideas of Christ, and the work of redemption, and the glorious way of salvation by him. An inward, sweet sense of these things, at times, came into my heart; and my soul was led away in pleasant views and contemplations of them. And my mind was greatly encouraged to spend my time in reading and meditating on Christ, on the beauty and excellency of his person, and the lovely way of salvation by free grace in him. I found no books so delightful to me, as those that treated of these subjects. Those words, Song. 2:1, used to be abundantly with me, “I am the Rose of Sharon, and the Lily of the valleys.” The words seemed to me sweetly to represent the loveliness and beauty of Jesus Christ. The whole book of Canticles used to be pleasant to me, and I used to be much in reading it, about that time; and found, from time to time, an inward sweetness, that would carry me away in my contemplations. This I know not how to express otherwise, than by a calm, sweet abstraction of soul from all the concerns of this world; and sometimes a kind of vision, or fixed ideas and imaginations, of being alone in the mountains, or some solitary wilderness, far from all mankind, sweetly conversing with Christ, and rapt and swallowed up in God. The sense I had of divine things, would often of a sudden kindle up, as it were, a sweet burning in my heart; an ardor of soul that I know not how to express.

Growth of Spiritual Life

    Not long after I first began to experience these things, I gave an account to my father of some things that had passed in my mind. I was pretty much affected by the discourse we had together; and when the discourse was ended, I walked abroad alone, in a solitary place in my father’s pasture, for contemplation. And as I was walking there, and looking up on the sky and clouds, there came into my mind so sweet a sense of the glorious majesty and grace of God, that I know not how to express. — I seemed to see them both in a sweet conjunction; majesty and meekness joined together: it was a sweet and gentle, and holy majesty; and also a majestic meekness; an awful sweetness; a high, and great, and holy gentleness.
    After this my sense of divine things gradually increased, and became more and more lively, and had more of that inward sweetness. The appearance of every thing was altered; there seemed to be, as it were, a calm, sweet cast, or appearance of divine glory, in almost every thing. God’s excellency, his wisdom, his purity and love, seemed to appear in every thing; in the sun, and moon, and stars; in the clouds and blue sky; in the grass, flowers, trees; in the water, and all nature; which used greatly to fix my mind. I often used to sit and view the moon for a long time; and in the day, spent much time in viewing the clouds and sky, to behold the sweet glory of God in these things; in the mean time, singing forth, with a low voice, my contemplations of the Creator and Redeemer. And scarce any thing, among all the works of nature, was so sweet to me as thunder and lightning; formerly nothing had been so terrible to me. Before, I used to be uncommonly terrified with thunder, and to be struck with terror when I saw a thunderstorm rising; but now, on the contrary, it rejoiced me. I felt God, if I may so to speak, at the first appearance of a thunderstorm; and used to take the opportunity, at such times, to fix myself in order to view the clouds and see the lightnings play, and hear the majestic and awful voice of God’s thunder, which oftentimes was exceedingly entertaining, leading me to sweet contemplations of my great and glorious God. While thus engaged, it always seemed natural to me to sing or chant forth my meditations; or, to speak my thoughts in soliloquies with a singing voice.
     ...On January 12, 1723, I made a solemn dedication of myself to God, and wrote it down; giving up myself, and all I had, to God; to be for the future in no respect my own; to act as one that had no right to himself, in any respect. And solemnly vowed to take God for my whole portion and felicity; looking on nothing else as any part of my happiness, nor acting as it were; and his law for the constant rule of my obedience; engaging to fight with all my might against the world, the flesh, and the devil, to the end of my life. But I have reason to be infinitely humbled, when I consider how much I have failed of answering my obligation.
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    I very frequently used to retire into a solitary place, on the banks of Hudson’s river, at some distance from the city, for contemplation on divine things and secret converse with God; and had many sweet hours there. Sometimes Mr. Smith and I walked there together, to converse on the things of God; and our conversation used to turn much on the advancement of Christ’s kingdom in the world, and the glorious things that God would accomplish for his church in the latter days. I had then, and at other times, the greatest delight in the Holy Scriptures of any book whatsoever. Oftentimes in reading it, every word seemed to touch my heart. I felt a harmony between something in my heart, and those sweet and powerful words. I seemed often to see so much light exhibited by every sentence, and such a refreshing food communicated, that I could not get along in reading; often dwelling long on one sentence, to see the wonders contained in it; and yet almost every sentence seemed to be full of wonders.

Further Reflections

    I came away from New York in the month of April, 1723, and had a most bitter parting with Madam Smith and her son. My heart seemed to sink within me at leaving the family and city, where I had enjoyed so many sweet and pleasant days. I went from New York to Wethersfield, by water, and as I sailed away, I kept sight of the city as long as I could. However, that night, after this sorrowful parting, I was greatly comforted in God at Westchester, where we went ashore to lodge; and had a pleasant time of it all the voyage to Saybrook. It was sweet to me to think of meeting dear Christians in heaven, where we should never part more. At Saybrook we went ashore to lodge on Saturday, and there kept the sabbath; where I had a sweet and refreshing season walking alone in the fields.
    After I came home to Windsor, I remained much in a like frame of mind as when at New York; only sometimes I felt my heart ready to sink with the thoughts of my friends at New York. My support was in contemplations on the heavenly state; as I find in my diary of May 1, 1723. It was a comfort to think of that state, where there is fullness of joy; where reigns heavenly calm, and delightful love, without alloy; where there are continually the dearest expressions of love; where is the enjoyment of the persons loved, without ever parting; where these persons who appear so lovely in this world, will really be inexpressibly more lovely and full of love to us. And how sweetly will the mutual lovers join together, to sing the praises of God and the Lamb! How will it fill us with joy to think that this enjoyment, these sweet exercises, will never cease but will last to all eternity! I continued much in the same frame, in the general, as when at New York, till I went to New Haven as tutor of the college; particularly once at Bolton, on a journey from Boston, while walking out alone in the fields. After I went to New Haven, I sunk in religion, my mind being diverted from my eager pursuits after holiness, by some affairs that greatly perplexed and distracted my thoughts.
    ...Once, as I rode out into the woods for my health, in 1737, having alighted from my horse in a retired place, as my manner commonly has been, to walk for divine contemplation and prayer, I had a view that for me was extraordinary, of the glory of the Son of God, as Mediator between God and man, and his wonderful, great, full, pure and sweet grace and love, and meek and gentle condescension. This grace that appeared so calm and sweet, appeared also great above the heavens. The person of Christ appeared ineffably excellent, with an excellency great enough to swallow up all thought and conception — which continued, as near as I can judge, about an hour; which kept me the greater part of the time in a flood of tears, and weeping aloud. I felt an ardency of soul to be, what I know not otherwise how to express, emptied and annihilated; to lie in the dust, and to be full of Christ alone; to love him with a holy and pure love; to trust in him; to live upon him; to serve and follow him; and to be perfectly sanctified and made pure, with a divine and heavenly purity. I have several other times had views very much of the same nature, and which have had the same effects.
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    Often, since I lived in this town, I have had very affecting views of my own sinfulness and vileness; very frequently to such a degree as to hold me in a kind of loud weeping, sometimes for a considerable time together; so that I have often been forced to shut myself up. I have had a vastly greater sense of my own wickedness, and the badness of my heart, than ever I had before my conversion. It has often appeared to me, that if God should mark iniquity against me, I should appear the very worst of all mankind; of all that have been since the beginning of the world to this time; and that I should have by far the lowest place in the world to this time; and that I should have by far the lowest place in hell. When others, that have come to talk with me about their soul concerns, have expressed the sense they have had of their own wickedness by saying, that it seemed to them, that they were as bad as the devil himself; I thought their expressions seemed exceeding faint and feeble, to represent my wickedness.
My wickedness, as I am in myself, has long appeared to me perfectly ineffable, and swallowing up all thought and imagination; like an infinite deluge, or mountains over my head. I know not how to express better what my sins appear to me to be, than by heaping infinite upon infinite, and multiplying infinite by infinite. Very often, for these many years, these expressions are in my mind and in my mouth, “Infinite upon infinite — Infinite upon infinite!” When I look into my heart, and take a view of my wickedness, it looks like an abyss, infinitely deeper than hell. And it appears to me, that were it not for free grace, exalted and raised up to the infinite height of all the fullness and glory of the great Jehovah, and the arm of his power and grace stretched forth in all the majesty of his power, and in all the glory of his sovereignty, I should appear sunk down in my sins below hell itself; far beyond the sight of every thing, but the eye of sovereign grace, that can pierce even down to such a depth. And yet, it seems to me that my conviction of sin is exceeding small and faint; it is enough to amaze me, that I have very little sense of my sinfulness. I know certainly, that I have very little sense of my sinfulness. When I have had turns of weeping for my sins, I thought I knew at the time that my repentance was nothing to my sin.
    I have greatly longed of late for a broken heart, and to lie low before God; and when I ask for humility, I cannot bear the thoughts of being no more humble than other Christians. It seems to me, that though their degrees of humility may be suitable for them, yet it would be a vile self-exaltation in me, not to be the lowest in humility of all mankind. Others speak of their longing to be “humbled in the dust”; that may be a proper expression for them, but I always think of myself, that I ought, and it is an expression that has long been natural for me to use in prayer, “to lie infinitely low before God.” And it is affecting to think, how ignorant I was, when a young Christian, of the bottomless, infinite depths of wickedness, pride, hypocrisy and deceit, left in my heart.
    I have a much greater sense of my universal, exceeding dependence on God’s grace and strength, and mere good pleasure, of late, than I used formerly to have; and have experienced more of an abhorrence of my own righteousness. The very thought of any joy arising in me, on any consideration of my own amiableness, performances, or experiences, or any goodness of heart or life, is nauseous and detestable to me. And yet, I am greatly afflicted with a proud and self-righteous spirit, much more sensibly than I used to be formerly. I see that serpent rising and putting, forth its head continually, every where, all around me.
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49 comments:

  1. "The appearance of every thing was altered; there seemed to be, as it were, a calm, sweet cast, or appearance of divine glory, in almost every thing."

    I think it's interesting how after the one talk Jonathan Edwards had with his father, he is seeing everything very differently - as if he was enlightened from that talk.

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  2. The sense I had of divine things, would often of a sudden kindle up, as it were, a sweet burning in my heart; an ardor of soul that I know not how to express.

    He is clearly passionately moved by his interpretations of divine things. He identifies the sense he has for divine things as a sweet burning in his heart, showing how much adoration he shares for this feeling. At the same time he is rushed by the power it has over him as he doesn't know how to express it quite right.

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  3. "I have had a vastly greater sense of my own wickedness, and the badness of my heart, than ever I had before my conversion."

    Once Jonathon Edwards found God, his life was put into perspective. As a child he never really appreciated the teachings of God and Christ, however once he found Christ and after his conversion, he saw the world and his life in a new light. He had an appreciation for his sinful heart and for his "own wickedness". He changed his life and immersed himself in Christ's teachings.
    -Jordan Bayer

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  4. "I entirely lost all those affections and delights, and left off secret prayer, at least as to any constant performance of it; and returned like a dog to his vomit, and went on in the ways of sin."
    Jonathon Edwards is talking about how he "lost God". I love the comparison of returning "like a dog to his vomit" because it shows the disgust he felt towards leaving his religion. Once he realizes this and goes back to worshipping, he feels much better and views everything in a better light.
    -Lindsey Pearlstein

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  5. "I, with some of my schoolmates, joined together and built a booth in a swamp, in a very retired spot, for a place of prayer. And besides, I had particular secret places of my own in the woods, where I used to retire by myself; and was from time to time much affected. My affections seemed to be lively and easily moved, and I seemed to be in my element when engaged in religious duties."

    In this particular passage, along with several other passages, Edwards represents his religion as something that's greatly hightened by nature. He's always religious, but when he sees nature at its greatest, like in a thunder storm, he becomes very thoughtful about God's magnificence. In addition, in this passage he seems to be hinting that society makes religion feel out of place, but when in the country and surrounded by nature, religion feels natural and purely right. He and his friends seek out this peace separate from society when they pray, and he even further isolates himself by praying in nature without any one, including his friends. Religion for him is something very natural, something that's "in his element."
    ~Rebecca Krane

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  6. " I have a much greater sense of my universal, exceeding dependence on God’s grace and strength, and mere good pleasure"
    and

    "God’s sovereignty, in choosing whom he would to eternal life, and rejecting whom he pleased; leaving them eternally to perish, and be everlastingly tormented in hell"

    we wondered in class if Edwards was a little crazy, and Mr. Colburn answered that it seems he was a bit bipolar. I think these two quotes definitely explain what mr Colburn meant. In the first quote he talks about god in a very comforting way, about his strength and grace, but on the second quote he talks in a very dark way about god and his way of torturing people.

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  7. "From my childhood up, my mind had been full of objections against the doctrine of God’s sovereignty, in choosing whom he would to eternal life, and rejecting whom he pleased; leaving them eternally to perish, and be everlastingly tormented in hell. It used to appear like a horrible doctrine to me"

    Jon is saying that he hasnt always thought of God in the way depicted by "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God". That at some point in time he despised when God would do horrible things. "It used to appear like a horrible doctrine to me", proving that he used to be at least a little less God fearing. Also, he talks about God damning people as he pleases in his Angry God sermon and when he says, "in choosing whom he would to eternal life, and rejecting whom he pleased".

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  8. "However, that night, after this sorrowful parting, I was greatly comforted in God at Westchester, where we went ashore to lodge; and had a pleasant time of it all the voyage to Saybrook."
    Throughout Edwards's "Personal Narrative" there seems to be a recurring theme of loneliness, in which Edwards looks to God to keep him company. Whenever Edwards goes though a tough time, he finds comfort in religion and in God. In the quote above, the "we" that Edwards talks about refers to himself and God. He treats God as a physical human being who "hangs out" with Edwards wherever life takes him.
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  9. I find it interesting how Edwards changed from when he was a young boy who "used to pray five times a day in secret" to a man who delivered famous sermons. Edwards came to accept his religious views, and feel comfortable making them known to others. His convinction in the power of God grew to the point at which he no longer feared the judgement of others.

    Claire Meyerovitz
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  10. I was pretty much affected by the discourse we had together; and when the discourse was ended, I walked abroad alone, in a solitary place in my father’s pasture, for contemplation. And as I was walking there, and looking up on the sky and clouds, there came into my mind so sweet a sense of the glorious majesty and grace of God, that I know not how to express. — I seemed to see them both in a sweet conjunction; majesty and meekness joined together: it was a sweet and gentle, and holy majesty; and also a majestic meekness; an awful sweetness; a high, and great, and holy gentleness

    I find the fact that his interactions with his father have such a strong religious context. On an entirely separate note, i appreciate the use of contrasting description of nature, i think it does a good job expressing the feeling overwhelming of awe from when you see a beautiful view of nature

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  11. "The doctrine has very often appeared exceeding pleasant, bright, and sweet."

    (In referring to "the doctrine of God’s sovereignty, in choosing whom he would to eternal life, and rejecting whom he pleased; leaving them eternally to perish, and be everlastingly tormented in hell.")

    While Edwards's excessive use of the word "sweet" has already somewhat diminished its meaning, I find the quote very interesting. It is one thing for him to ardently believe in this doctrine - although that does not make much sense to me either - but the fact that he finds the idea of leaving "whom he pleased" to eternally perish "and be everlastingly tormented in hell" is perplexing.

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  12. **to be "pleasant, bright, and sweet"

    -Amanda

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  13. "I laid myself under by a kind of vows to God, I was brought wholly to break off all former wicked ways, and all ways of known outward sin; and to apply myself to seek salvation, and practice many religious duties; but without that kind of affection and delight which I had formerly experienced.”

    Edwards is stating that without Christianity he started becoming a mess “great and violent inward struggles” and he needed to vow to God and to Christianity to have balanced inside his body again and he is stating that he is always thinking about God first and Christianity and then himself because he doesn’t want to make a sin of some sort. I think that is really fascinating how in that time period everybody was looking into Christianity and God for balancing there body and mind and always thinking about God first and then themselves.

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  14. "Often, since I lived in this town, I have had very affecting views of my own sinfulness and vileness; very frequently to such a degree as to hold me in a kind of loud weeping, sometimes for a considerable time together"

    I think we learn a lot about Edward's spirituality when we read this line. We see that he is very involved in religion, he's so involved that he weeps over his own sinfulness. This line also speaks to his sanity and bipolarity.
    Corey Grill
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  15. "From my childhood up, my mind had been full of objections against the doctrine of God’s sovereignty, in choosing whom he would to eternal life, and rejecting whom he pleased; leaving them eternally to perish, and be everlastingly tormented in hell. It used to appear like a horrible doctrine to me."

    As a child he does this.Personally I think Jonathan Edwards took some of what he learned a little too far. This must be for he was raised by a preacher and grew up believing that if you dont believe in god you will burn in hell. Reading some of this he almost sounds brainwashed.

    Marisa Najarian
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  16. "From my childhood up, my mind had been full of objections against the doctrine of God’s sovereignty, in choosing whom he would to eternal life, and rejecting whom he pleased; leaving them eternally to perish, and be everlastingly tormented in hell. It used to appear like a horrible doctrine to me."

    I think this is really interesting because Edwards grew up in a family of religious figures. His father was also a pastor so the fact that he grew up not believing that God was correct in his actions surprises me. The fact that he turned out to be an extremely religious and faithful servant of God later in life also contradicts his outlook as a child which is interesting.

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  17. "God’s excellency, his wisdom, his purity and love, seemed to appear in every thing; in the sun, and moon, and stars; in the clouds and blue sky; in the grass, flowers, trees; in the water, and all nature"

    I love this quote because it's a refreshing change of pace from his usually intense faith in god. The faith he's describing sounds so innocent and simple, by saying god is in the purest of things such as the clouds and the blue sky. In this quote, Edwards does not seem like the harshly religious man that preaches scary sermons about parents laughing at their children in hell. He just seems like someone who believes in the idea of God.
    -Danielle Balanov
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  18. ".On January 12, 1723, I made a solemn dedication of myself to God, and wrote it down; giving up myself, and all I had, to God; to be for the future in no respect my own; to act as one that had no right to himself, in any respect. And solemnly vowed to take God for my whole portion and felicity; looking on nothing else as any part of my happiness, nor acting as it were; and his law for the constant rule of my obedience"

    This passage intrigues me because usually people who are ministers do not wholly commit themselves to act only in the way that God should. This also very much describes and explains his actions in life very well

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  19. "But in process of time, my convictions and affections wore off; and I entirely lost all those affections and delights, and left off secret prayer, at least as to any constant performance of it; and returned like a dog to his vomit, and went on in the ways of sin."

    This quote interests me because it shows that there was a time in Jonathan Edward's life when he stopped being religious. This period away from religion was due to the wearing off of his initial happiness from religion. He considers the time when he wasn't religious a time where he was constantly sinning.

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  20. "The first time was when I was a boy, some years before I went to college, at a time of remarkable awakening in my father’s congregation. I was then very much affected for many months, and concerned about the things of religion, and my soul’s salvation"

    In this quote Edwards says that he was first intrigued, and first connected with religion a few years before he went to college. In class we learned that he was only 12 when he went to college. I think it is really amazing that Edwards was so young when he had such a spiritual connection with something that would be such a part of him for the rest of his life. It seems so rare that people discover their callings when they are under 12 but it was true for Edwards.

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  21. "From about that time, I began to have a new kind of apprehensions and ideas of Christ, and the work of redemption, and the glorious way of salvation by him. An inward, sweet sense of these things, at times, came into my heart; and my soul was led away in pleasant views and contemplations of them. And my mind was greatly encouraged to spend my time in reading and meditating on Christ, on the beauty and excellency of his person, and the lovely way of salvation by free grace in him."

    This passage struck me as it was far from the fiery sermons I am used to hearing from him. This does give a sense of him being a bit bi-polar in his ideals. Though this seems to describe him at a younger stage in his life, it is still surprising to me that he could ever hold god in a more friendly light. His idea of holey beings seems to imply that they choose to exact wrath more often than they show kindness or wonder. The idea that he (at least originally) thought of God as a kind being strays far from his "Angry God" message that was found in his most famous sermon.

    -JD Nurme

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  22. "My mind was much engaged in it, and had much self-righteous pleasure; and it was my delight to abound in religious duties."

    I find this passage interesting because this shows where his focuses are placed. They are mainly on religious duties and to do things that are morally correct. For him to achieve these things, gave him pleasure. He put all of his attention on these things in life, which were most important to him. What I find interesting about this is that succeeding in his religious duties gives him the most satisfaction in life.

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  23. "An inward, sweet sense of these things, at times, came into my heart; and my soul was led away in pleasant views and contemplations of them. And my mind was greatly encouraged to spend my time in reading and meditating on Christ"
    This part struck me as it is the first time in the narrative that he says anything about christ, or anything other than his exploits towards his religion in general. I found it interesting because with my minimal knowledge of the Christian faith i do know that Jesus Christ was very important. It is weird that he can read the bible and any other Christian scriptures and not feel some kind of connection to Jesus, especially since he reveres the religion so greatly.
    Mike W

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  24. "my mind had been full of objections against the doctrine of God’s sovereignty, in choosing whom he would to eternal life, and rejecting whom he pleased"

    I think that it is an interesting point for Edwards to bring up, especially when he, in his adult years was such a stong believer and preacher of heaven and hell. That he could question the fairness of God as a child but later seem to be a 100% believer.

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  25. "And yet, I am greatly afflicted with a proud and self-righteous spirit, much more sensibly than I used to be formerly. I see that serpent rising and putting, forth its head continually, every where, all around me."

    Edwards is saying that despite the fact that he was able to regain his faith, he reconizes the importance of working on being a more faithful person. Edwards understands that faith is a progressive concept, and that if a person does not work on it at all times, he or she might lose it as fast as they gained it.

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  26. "I made a solemn dedication of myself to God, and wrote it down; giving up myself, and all I had, to God; to be for the future in no respect my own; to act as one that had no right to himself, in any respect. And solemnly vowed to take God for my whole portion and felicity; looking on nothing else as any part of my happiness, nor acting as it were; and his law for the constant rule of my obedience; engaging to fight with all my might against the world, the flesh, and the devil, to the end of my life. But I have reason to be infinitely humbled, when I consider how much I have failed of answering my obligation."

    His words here remind me of Buddhist asceticism, where people give up all of their worldly possessions (material being)in order to be closened with the non material spiritual world in this case of God. He is extremely hard on himself despite being very religious he has still failed his obligations. It brings to mind that if even a m,an who devoted every waking second of his life to God and still thought it was not enough then under that premise seemingly no one could satisfy God in the way that Edwards explains.

    - Cyrus Rassoulian

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  27. "From my childhood up, my mind had been full of objections against the doctrine of God’s sovereignty, in choosing whom he would to eternal life, and rejecting whom he pleased; leaving them eternally to perish, and be everlastingly tormented in hell. It used to appear like a horrible doctrine to me."

    I found this comment particularly interesting because it shows a side not normally seen of such a religious devotee such as Jonathan Edwards. It shows that even some of the most religious people out there don't have all positive experiences with their practices. Edwards can seem like the most devoted to God of anyone we've read about, but this phrase explains that even he had some trouble with his religious feelings as a boy. Perhaps it was an experience like this to really awaken his amazing interest in Christianity and push him over the edge, so to speak, as a fairly powerful minister. Overall, this comment stuck out to me because it's just so different from what you normally hear Edwards say is important about faith in God.

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  28. "The appearance of every thing was altered; there seemed to be, as it were, a calm, sweet cast, or appearance of divine glory, in almost every thing. God’s excellency, his wisdom, his purity and love, seemed to appear in every thing..."

    I found this quote very interesting because it implies the his discovery of God essentially enlightened him, and made him see the beauty in things. Edwards was a lover of nature, and here that comes through in that he realized the beauty in what God put on the earth (in his mind). It is also interesting that the alteration Edwards speaks of seems like an almost instantaneous thing; he went from not necessarily acknowledging nature to appreciating it.
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  29. "I entirely lost all those affections and delights, and left off secret prayer, at least as to any constant performance of it; and returned like a dog to his vomit, and went on in the ways of sin."

    I find it interesting the depths that Edwards goes to to describe his devotion to God. In this quote Edwards describes how he gave up all "affections and delights" for God. That is very impressive that one could give up all he loves to prove to God that his faith is his main priority.

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  30. "And my mind was greatly encouraged to spend my time in reading and meditating on Christ, on the beauty and excellency of his person, and the lovely way of salvation by free grace in him. I found no books so delightful to me, as those that treated of these subjects."

    I likes this quote and found it interesting because it shows his devotion to God even after he felt like he would go to Hell. This quote also shows how he has changed from a man who thought he was lost in the world to a man with a focused path and a goal of what he wanted to do and who he wanted to follow.

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  31. "And scarce any thing, among all the works of nature, was so sweet to me as thunder and lightning; formerly nothing had been so terrible to me."

    He is saying that because of God and the power Edwards believes God has over nature, he is starting to see once frightening things, like thunder and lightening, as beautiful because they are created by God. I think it's a really amazing thing to be able to find the beauty in everything in the world, whether it be in nature or in a person or the beauty and upside to a situation. It's fantastic that he was able to achieve this through his belief in God.
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  32. "But in process of time, my convictions and affections wore off; and I entirely lost all those affections and delights, and left off secret prayer, at least as to any constant performance of it; and returned like a dog to his vomit, and went on in the ways of sin. I liked this quote, I don't know why. I find the narrative to be really interesting and somewhat mysterious and creepy. His religious devotion and solitary praying seems very cult like and like an obsession, which I think and obsession with anything should be classified as unhealthy. He also talks about his mental and physical internal struggles, that happened to be quite "violent"/ I really wish he had gone in to more detail about this because it made me really curious to know what specifically was going on in his life. I belief that if he is going to go that much in to detail about HOW christ saved his soul, he also needs to to explain the WHY and why he needed christ in his life (other than to not go to hell).

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  33. "I used to pray five times a day in secret, and to spend much time in religious conversation with other boys; and used to meet with them to pray together."

    Firstly, "meet[ing] to pray... with other boys" is exactly the opposite of "pray[ing]... in secret." I know this could be seen as me being overly nit-picky over a relatively menial contradiction. However, these polar opposites stood out to me; for, even before reading this, I was struck by his claim that our God was "angry," which, to me, is stands in stark contrast to the all-loving God that I have been taught.
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  34. "From my childhood up, my mind had been full of objections against the doctrine of God’s sovereignty, in choosing whom he would to eternal life, and rejecting whom he pleased; leaving them eternally to perish, and be everlastingly tormented in hell."

    I chose this quote because I was surprised at how originally Edwards was more of a rebellious child toward the ideas of religion. He obviously questioned the authority of God which I never knew he did, and seemed to criticize how God was able to save whoever he wanted, and could just as easily send people to be forever tormented in hell.

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  35. "Before, I used to be uncommonly terrified with thunder, and to be struck with terror when I saw a thunderstorm rising; but now, on the contrary, it rejoiced me."
    This quote was very interesting to me for two reasons- first, it rather clearly shows Edwards' greater appreciation for god's omnipotence and secondly it is a good example of him changing his view of god's 'stormy' wrath from scary to good.
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  36. "I used to pray five times a day in secret, and to spend much time in religious conversation with other boys; and used to meet with them to pray together."
    This quote interests me because it shows how early Edwards' devotion to his religion started. Children often don't take to religion at such a young age because it can be complicated and is often more of a mature topic. Clearly Edwards did not fit my previous stereotypes of how religion is taken in by children. The fact that such passion was inspired in him, even as a young man, is remarkable. It certainly goes to show how powerful religion truely is. After learning of his childhood passion, it is no longer as suprising to me that Edwards took christianity so seriously as an adult and that was so devoted to its messages.
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  37. "I was brought wholly to break off all former wicked ways, and all ways of known outward sin; and to apply myself to seek salvation, and practice many religious duties; but without that kind of affection and delight which I had formerly experienced."
    Edwards writes this in contrast to the way he had practiced religion prior to his second return to Christianity. Because he describes himself as changed and only focused on religion, he downsizes how he practiced religion before. I find it interesting that Edwards went from actually enjoying worshipping God, to doing it because he felt that he had to.

    -Oliver Sablove

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  38. "I made a solemn dedication of myself to God, and wrote it down; giving up myself, and all I had, to God; to be for the future in no respect my own; to act as one that had no right to himself, in any respect."

    I found this line to be very interesting mostly because of what Edwards actually preached in his sermons. Edwards seems to think that even if you are a good Christian and even if you do everything by the book, God still has the discretion to decide whether you will go to heaven or hell. This makes me wonder why Edwards would be so eager to give up all that he has for an angry God who may well send Edwards to hell no regardless of how he worships. I guess Edwards just truly believed in everything that he said and preached.
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  39. "I had a variety of concerns and exercises about my soul from my childhood"

    "I was then very much affected for many months, and concerned about the things of religion, and my soul’s salvation"

    I think Jonathan Edward was meant to be a greatest theologist since he was born. He was interested in religion so much even when he was only a child. And also, even his father was aminister and affected young Jonathan Edward in a religious way. Again, I think it's really interesting that Jonathan Edward was really into religion even when he was a child (if he was not lying about it)

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  40. And solemnly vowed to take God for my whole portion and felicity; looking on nothing else as any part of my happiness, nor acting as it were; and his law for the constant rule of my obedience; engaging to fight with all my might against the world, the flesh, and the devil, to the end of my life. But I have reason to be infinitely humbled, when I consider how much I have failed of answering my obligation.

    In this quote, Edwards seems to self conflicted about whether or not to fight against Hell and the devil (his obligation) and such or just give in to humility...he seems to have had a lot of internal struggles over his life such as this one.

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  41. "My wickedness, as I am in myself, has long appeared to me perfectly ineffable, and swallowing up all thought and imagination; like an infinite deluge, or mountains over my head. I know not how to express better what my sins appear to me to be, than by heaping infinite upon infinite, and multiplying infinite by infinite."

    I found this quote interesting because here Edwards admits that he cannot articulate what his sins actually are. The only direct identification of his sins is his lack of reverence to God in his college years. But yet Edwards implies that there are more aspects of his wickedness. I begin to feel like his sin is the intrinsic fact of his existing. How could one possibly repent for that?
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  42. From my childhood up, my mind had been full of objections against the doctrine of God’s sovereignty, in choosing whom he would to eternal life, and rejecting whom he pleased; leaving them eternally to perish, and be everlastingly tormented in hell. It used to appear like a horrible doctrine to me.

    This was interesting because it illustrates the change that came over him. It seems impressive to me that someone could go from this to such strict and unfaltering devotion. It was interesting to see how parts of him change in regard to relgion and others did not.

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  43. ^ Marie Kolarik E block.... ooops

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  44. " The sense I had of divine things, would often of a sudden kindle up, as it were, a sweet burning in my heart; an ardor of soul that I know not how to express."

    Edwards apparently had a genuine, intense, and spontaneous piety. I'm curious why some people are struck that way, and others who have exposure to religion are not. The intensity of his emotional episodes, which are described a few times in the excerpt, make me wonder if he had some kind of mental issue.

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  45. "God’s excellency, his wisdom, his purity and love, seemed to appear in every thing"
    Jonathan Edwards is a very interesting person. He seems to be hard on himself, and even his life childhood was full of internal struggle, his faith in god was immense. He talks about god in almost every sentence, and it was the faith of god alone that seemed to get him out of the dark parks of his life, and cast him upwards into euphoria.
    -Sam Kellman-Wanzer

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  46. "When I look into my heart, and take a view of my wickedness, it looks like an abyss, infinitely deeper than hell."

    Most of the article is about how Edwards found god and made the strive for salvation is life. Yet in the last section, he describes himself as infinitely evil, as going to the deepest hell. the fact that he talks about his heart as an abyss, however, suggests that he has really found little meaning in his life, that he is empty. This seems to contradict everything he said before. Perhaps this emptiness despite god is what promotes his intense feelings of guilt. He is too religious in thought to consider his actions good.

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  47. "My wickedness, as I am in myself, has long appeared to me perfectly ineffable, and swallowing up all thought and imagination; like an infinite deluge, or mountains over my head. I know not how to express better what my sins appear to me to be, than by heaping infinite upon infinite, and multiplying infinite by infinite."
    What struck me as interesting in this line was the emphasis on numbers, specifically, infinity. It is clear from both this personal narrative and his sermon that Edwards was obsessed with numbers; in the passage of his sermon that we read yesterday, he kept on repeating numbers to show the extent of God's rage; here, he uses them to show his wickedness.
    He also uses various natural phenomena in both: in his sermon, he compares God's wrath to water building up and enormous flames, and here, he writes of an "infinite deluge" and towering mountains. It's absurd to think that someone who has devoted his whole life, basically, to religion still sees himself as evil, but maybe he's too religious to acknowledge his own good and only sees the good of God.

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  48. A phrase that I found interesting was when Jonathan Edwards writes, “I used to pray five times a day in secret, and to spend much time in religious conversation with other boys; and used to meet with them to pray together.” The fact that he used to actually pray privately, in addition to the numerous hours he devoted “in religious conversion with [others]”. From early childhood, it appears that his entire life revolved around religion. By saying that he prayed in secret, we become aware of the extremity of his religious faith.

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  49. I agree with Claire, that's pretty cool that Edwards went from a five time a day prayer to a significant, famous, religious figure. As a church goer every sunday sometimes i find myself spacing out, sometimes I wonder what these priests were like as child. I think it's pretty cool that Edwards prayed five times a day and i think that played a big role in his devotion to Christianity and becoming a priest. I also find it really creepy and strange that a priest like him would give such a scary sermon. Usually sermons are up beat and are supportive to christians, but this sermon is completely different.

    Jack Corcoran

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